Ok help the community can help. Current working setup has 2 nics and uses BorderManager. Have put a PIX 501 in place. Internet is goind out PIX via tracert on client computers. When I go into inetcfg and change next hop to my router which then dumps stuff off to the PIX outgoing email still goes out through the GWIA. I never get incoming. It listens on the public IP. PIX points smtp to both public and private. Any ideas, I can give configs etc if needed. Funny thing is in one location I have an ASA one nic box and it works fine. I don't see any differences.