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Tim Wohlford
11-Jul-2007, 03:56 PM
One of the joys of working with small businesses is that they don't have a
boatload of bureaucratic standards, procedures, etc etc.

One of the frustrations is that the key employees do whatever they want to
do, and expect me to make it all work. Some examples:

- I lost a client when I couldn't get their games to work on their computer
while eliminating all spyware and popups. After a few visits to clean off
computers, and a few more trying to get games working, I suggested that
they'd save a lot of money if they bought a couple of playstations. I
wasn't being nasty -- just honest.

- Last week, I got an urgent email from a client who had a GW7 folder come
up mysteriously missing from his cabinet. Fair enough, it happens. When I
got the email restored, I noticed that 90% of the email that I'd restored
was mass emails from a person at a vendor, who was sending out XXX-rated
video attachments. The recipients were the owner, his son-in-laws, and 2
other long-term key employees. I'm just wondering how much of my GW server
is now devoted to such colorful email.


Tim Wohlford

Lindsey Johnstone
11-Jul-2007, 04:03 PM
Tim Wohlford said,

>
> One of the joys of working with small businesses is that they don't have a
> boatload of bureaucratic standards, procedures, etc etc.
>
> One of the frustrations is that the key employees do whatever they want to do,
> and expect me to make it all work. Some examples:
>
> - I lost a client when I couldn't get their games to work on their computer
> while eliminating all spyware and popups. After a few visits to clean off
> computers, and a few more trying to get games working, I suggested that they'd
> save a lot of money if they bought a couple of playstations. I wasn't being
> nasty -- just honest.
>
> - Last week, I got an urgent email from a client who had a GW7 folder come up
> mysteriously missing from his cabinet. Fair enough, it happens. When I got
> the email restored, I noticed that 90% of the email that I'd restored was mass
> emails from a person at a vendor, who was sending out XXX-rated video
> attachments. The recipients were the owner, his son-in-laws, and 2 other
> long-term key employees. I'm just wondering how much of my GW server is now
> devoted to such colorful email.

In one of my contracting gigs, I found an entire City server devoted to music.
Thought it strange that a City server should be so utilized. Reported it to my
supervisor before realizing that the largest share of the music was hers. for
some reason, my contract wasn't renewed. <g>


--
Lindsey

Joseph Marton
11-Jul-2007, 04:14 PM
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:03:14 +0000, Lindsey Johnstone wrote:

> In one of my contracting gigs, I found an entire City server devoted to
> music. Thought it strange that a City server should be so utilized.
> Reported it to my supervisor before realizing that the largest share of
> the music was hers. for some reason, my contract wasn't renewed. <g>

Place I used to work at many moons ago, a Novell partner in fact (at least
they were then, now the buttmunches are M$ partners and have dropped their
Novell partnership), we had an FTP server up in the office to be used by
the guys when we were out in the field. Good for sending a file into the
office to look at when we got there, or for testing out connectivity and
stuff. Well apparently someone left the anonymous account active and it
had permissions to upload files. Needless to say someone on the 'net
found it and the FTP server wound up becoming a huge pr0n repository.

Once it was discovered, instead of disabling anon they just decided to
shut it down. Became a pain in the rear.

--
Joe
"Mostly me, mostly you."

Sewermonger
11-Jul-2007, 04:21 PM
We wondered why a backup of a workstation took so long till we realized
that it was our boss (he was fired for porn and pictures BTW) The day
after I was tasked with getting an image of his workstation and laptop.
I was issued his laptop and I attempted to use it. Loaded with so many
spybots, virus (he had not updated his virus def files in over a year
and had disabled scans) that I just fdisked and did a security wipe of
the drive (25 passes of all 1's and than 0's on that to make sure
nothing could ever be retrieved to blame me)

The workstation I just replaced the drive with a new one. Locked the
drive in a safe (we still have it in case he decides to sue, along with
the ghost images)


--
Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.

Tim Wohlford
11-Jul-2007, 04:22 PM
Perhaps that server is the cause of the worldwide Internet outage?

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/breaking_news_all_online_data?utm_source=embedded_ video


Tim

Mary Matthews
11-Jul-2007, 04:57 PM
I wouldn't sweat the loss of a PITA client regarding the games.

However, I would advise the client with the XXX videos that they should
really consider getting rid of those videos and never running them at work.
Even as a contractor you can sue for sexual harrassment - as can any
employee (temp or permanent). Just because they're small, doesn't mean it
won't happen. And if ANY of it contains anyone that is underage they'll be
at risk for arrest as a pedophile with possible additional charges for
potential distribution of illegal materials. I'd give them advice in
writing, have them sign off that they received it, and drop then them as a
client. Remember our governor and legislature is looking at passing
morality legislation requiring shops to report porn offenders.

Tim Wohlford
11-Jul-2007, 05:25 PM
I've seen so much porn on computers that, like the ob/gyn medical student,
it doesn't have much affect on me anymore... or I'm too old to respond like
I used to... or both?

Tim Wohlford




"Sewermonger" <Sewermonger@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1A6li.490$3p6.483@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com...
> We wondered why a backup of a workstation took so long till we realized
> that it was our boss (he was fired for porn and pictures BTW) The day
> after I was tasked with getting an image of his workstation and laptop.
> I was issued his laptop and I attempted to use it. Loaded with so many
> spybots, virus (he had not updated his virus def files in over a year
> and had disabled scans) that I just fdisked and did a security wipe of
> the drive (25 passes of all 1's and than 0's on that to make sure
> nothing could ever be retrieved to blame me)
>
> The workstation I just replaced the drive with a new one. Locked the
> drive in a safe (we still have it in case he decides to sue, along with
> the ghost images)
>
>
> --
> Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.
>
>

Joseph Marton
11-Jul-2007, 05:34 PM
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:25:32 +0000, Tim Wohlford wrote:

> I've seen so much porn on computers that, like the ob/gyn medical student,
> it doesn't have much affect on me anymore... or I'm too old to respond
> like I used to... or both?

So does that mean you don't celebrate nudie magazine day?

--
Joe
"Mostly me, mostly you."

Chris
11-Jul-2007, 06:16 PM
I have a user who's computer I have to totally resinatll at least 7
times a year because of all the spyware he picks up from his porn sites.
My nickname for him is porn king and TPTB don't care to do anything
about it. Some of them aren't totally innocent either.

Tim Wohlford wrote:
> One of the joys of working with small businesses is that they don't have a
> boatload of bureaucratic standards, procedures, etc etc.
>
> One of the frustrations is that the key employees do whatever they want to
> do, and expect me to make it all work. Some examples:
>
> - I lost a client when I couldn't get their games to work on their computer
> while eliminating all spyware and popups. After a few visits to clean off
> computers, and a few more trying to get games working, I suggested that
> they'd save a lot of money if they bought a couple of playstations. I
> wasn't being nasty -- just honest.
>
> - Last week, I got an urgent email from a client who had a GW7 folder come
> up mysteriously missing from his cabinet. Fair enough, it happens. When I
> got the email restored, I noticed that 90% of the email that I'd restored
> was mass emails from a person at a vendor, who was sending out XXX-rated
> video attachments. The recipients were the owner, his son-in-laws, and 2
> other long-term key employees. I'm just wondering how much of my GW server
> is now devoted to such colorful email.
>
>
> Tim Wohlford
>
>

Mark (mgh)
11-Jul-2007, 10:20 PM
> In one of my contracting gigs, I found an entire City server devoted
> to music. Thought it strange that a City server should be so utilized.

As would anyone here.

> Reported it to my supervisor before realizing that the largest share
> of the music was hers. for some reason, my contract wasn't renewed.
> <g>

So did you report it to the City or State Attorney General Office?
Mayor's office? Heads should roll for that kind of fraud, waste, &
abuse of public resources.

Sewermonger
11-Jul-2007, 10:47 PM
same here


--
Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.

Kim Groneman
11-Jul-2007, 10:49 PM
Sewermonger,

> same here

With the difference being Tim sees it on someone else's computer. <gd&r>

--
Kim

Lindsey Johnstone
11-Jul-2007, 10:51 PM
Mark (mgh) said,

>
> > In one of my contracting gigs, I found an entire City server devoted
> > to music. Thought it strange that a City server should be so utilized.
>
> As would anyone here.
>
> > Reported it to my supervisor before realizing that the largest share
> > of the music was hers. for some reason, my contract wasn't renewed.
> > <g>
>
> So did you report it to the City or State Attorney General Office?
> Mayor's office? Heads should roll for that kind of fraud, waste, &
> abuse of public resources.

Nah, as a contractor (and a non-resident of that City) wasn't the thing to do. I
moved along to a good gig that turned into another good gig (for at least five
years).

--
Lindsey

Miles58
11-Jul-2007, 11:05 PM
My S.O.P. has become to image their HD and drop a new one in minus the
offensive material. The original HD goes in my safe and if they behave on
company time and equipment for six months I wipe the drive. If they don't
behave, management gets the report and they just freaking hate dealing with
bad behavior problems.

It really gets their attention when they realize I have the original disk
and contents locked away. Like most companys, we specify in the acceptable
use policy that all the info on our computers and networks is company
property and that there is no expectation of privacy whatsoever. I have
never so much as had to confront anyone much less use or threaten to turn
over the drive.

I have made very clear to management that I will act unilaterally though in
the case of kiddie porn since if the FBI comes a knocking they *will*
confiscate computers and that may well include servers and backup media.
That could put almost anyone out of business.

I think all of my users know that I can take over their computers at will
and that I can (and do) monitor their internet activity

The thing that *does* surprise me is how much of that stuff the women trade
back and forth.

Dave Taylor
12-Jul-2007, 08:20 AM
"Tim Wohlford" <geek49203@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:0w7li.539$3p6.183@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com:

> I've seen so much porn on computers that, like the ob/gyn medical
> student, it doesn't have much affect on me anymore... or I'm too old
> to respond like I used to... or both?
>

I once spent a day fdisking a porn photo guy's boxen. I realized that he
was pretty clued up when he had Data drives full of "data", think 100,000s
of jpgs all scanned in by 35 mmm slides and digital cameras were only just
becoming slightly affordable.
He was being hacked and cracked but didn't want to spend large on proper
firewalls, so we would do a round of system partitions re-imagings every
once in a while.
Once you see what folders you need to copy around it was pretty easy.
Gathering drivers for the first fdisk session was painful, he just had no
idea, and the "driver on the net" idea was really new. Ah memories of a
proud owner wanting to show me his best data...


--
Ciao, Dave

D Hunter
12-Jul-2007, 04:03 PM
> vendor, who was sending out XXX-rated video
> attachments. The recipients were the owner,
> his son-in-laws, and 2 other long-term key
> employees. I'm just wondering how much of my
> GW server is now devoted to such colorful email.
>

As opposed to the old black and white films?


--
DHunter
Dealing with LUsers is like being nibbled to
death by ducks.

Tim Wohlford
12-Jul-2007, 04:07 PM
Women trading porn... smoking as many cigarettes as men... almost equal in
coronary disease... 2 to 1 more likely to be the instigator in a road rage
situation...

Sigh... call me old-fashioned, but it seems to me that some parts of women's
equality isn't very good.

(ducking and running)

Tim Wohlford



"Miles58" <miles58@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:nucli.702$3p6.36@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com...
>
> The thing that *does* surprise me is how much of that stuff the women
> trade back and forth.
>

Miles58
12-Jul-2007, 07:54 PM
They smoke more here. They drink as much or more. They do see to be pretty
much nonviolent though.

Mary Matthews
12-Jul-2007, 08:05 PM
So what, you haven't learned yet to not cut off cranky old women like me in
traffic? ;)

My girlfriend has the perfect bummer sticker on her car: "I'm out of
Estrogen and I have a gun...have a nice day!"

KeN Etter
12-Jul-2007, 09:47 PM
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:05:40 GMT, "Mary Matthews"
<mlm23NO@SPAMcalvin.edu> wrote:

>My girlfriend has the perfect bummer sticker on her car: "I'm out of
>Estrogen and I have a gun...have a nice day!"

bummer sticker? Typo or intentional? :-)

Novell....it does a server good!

Mary Matthews
13-Jul-2007, 01:41 PM
Must have been a freudian typo... :)

KeN Etter
13-Jul-2007, 03:11 PM
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:41:33 GMT, "Mary Matthews"
<mlm23NO@SPAMcalvin.edu> wrote:

>Must have been a freudian typo... :)

:-)

Novell....it does a server good!