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Jim Henderson
14-Jul-2007, 04:24 AM
Ah, well, that wasn't so bad. But they didn't do the blood test which is
what I had been led to understand they were going to do - they did the
"let's scratch your back with different stuff and see what the results
are".

I have four allergies, graded on a scale of 0-4:

* Maple Trees (Score: 2)
* Mesquite Trees (Score: 2)
* Cats (Score: 3)
* Dust Mites - Fannae (Score: 4)
* Dust Mites - Pteronysoniss (Score: 4p)

I have no idea what the 'p' means on the last one, but I guess it was the
one that the reaction was most severe - maybe beyond a 4 on their scale.

I also am borderline asthmatic - not so much that I need to be treated,
but it's something the doctor wants to watch. I did a test on a
spirometer (basically, you inhale and exhale into a tube as fast as you
can and they measure how much air moves and how fast), both before and
after a double-dose of albuterol. The albuterol helped, apparently.

So now I've got a ton of medications to treat the symptoms. The
Albuterol, Nasonex, Advair, Allegra, some kind of eye drops (we pick up
the prescriptions tomorrow as the computers were down in our local
pharmacy), and I think one other.

Then I have the option of doing Immunotherapy. Doc wants me to use the
meds for 3 weeks and come back and see how we are, and we can talk about
the immunotherapy then. Shots twice a week for 2-3 months, once a week
for 3 months, and then a shot once every 1-4 weeks depending on the
progress over the next 3+ years.

Ugh.

But at the same time, it's likely if I go for the immunotherapy, the
problem could be resolved permanently, and I like that idea. I think if
the insurance covers it, I'm going to do it.

Needless to say, my back still itches some, I suppose I could go and take
a couple benedryl before going to bed.

All in all, positive results though; I was surprised that I have no grass
or pollen allergies, no mold allergies, and no weeds. I had guessed
cottonwood and ragweed would have hit me, but nope, no reaction at all on
those.

Jim

Keith V. Klenke
14-Jul-2007, 05:15 AM
Grab yourself a dyson next time woot.com has one (not the used one, get the
new one with a 5yr warr). It really really does suck.
Are you a pack rat? Not now, out it all goes, & if you do have to keep
something, you wont be keeping it in cardboard boxes.

btw, you didnt mention food allergies result from that test.

......love me some nasonex.

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"Jim Henderson" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Ah, well, that wasn't so bad. But they didn't do the blood test which is
> what I had been led to understand they were going to do - they did the
> "let's scratch your back with different stuff and see what the results
> are".
>
> I have four allergies, graded on a scale of 0-4:
>
> * Maple Trees (Score: 2)
> * Mesquite Trees (Score: 2)
> * Cats (Score: 3)
> * Dust Mites - Fannae (Score: 4)
> * Dust Mites - Pteronysoniss (Score: 4p)
>
> I have no idea what the 'p' means on the last one, but I guess it was the
> one that the reaction was most severe - maybe beyond a 4 on their scale.
>
> I also am borderline asthmatic - not so much that I need to be treated,
> but it's something the doctor wants to watch. I did a test on a
> spirometer (basically, you inhale and exhale into a tube as fast as you
> can and they measure how much air moves and how fast), both before and
> after a double-dose of albuterol. The albuterol helped, apparently.
>
> So now I've got a ton of medications to treat the symptoms. The
> Albuterol, Nasonex, Advair, Allegra, some kind of eye drops (we pick up
> the prescriptions tomorrow as the computers were down in our local
> pharmacy), and I think one other.
>
> Then I have the option of doing Immunotherapy. Doc wants me to use the
> meds for 3 weeks and come back and see how we are, and we can talk about
> the immunotherapy then. Shots twice a week for 2-3 months, once a week
> for 3 months, and then a shot once every 1-4 weeks depending on the
> progress over the next 3+ years.
>
> Ugh.
>
> But at the same time, it's likely if I go for the immunotherapy, the
> problem could be resolved permanently, and I like that idea. I think if
> the insurance covers it, I'm going to do it.
>
> Needless to say, my back still itches some, I suppose I could go and take
> a couple benedryl before going to bed.
>
> All in all, positive results though; I was surprised that I have no grass
> or pollen allergies, no mold allergies, and no weeds. I had guessed
> cottonwood and ragweed would have hit me, but nope, no reaction at all on
> those.
>
> Jim

Jim Henderson
14-Jul-2007, 07:32 AM
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 04:15:23 +0000, Keith V. Klenke wrote:

> Grab yourself a dyson next time woot.com has one (not the used one, get
> the new one with a 5yr warr). It really really does suck. Are you a pack
> rat? Not now, out it all goes, & if you do have to keep something, you
> wont be keeping it in cardboard boxes.

Yeah, I'm a bit of a pack rat, but it's all in the basement. But we do
need a clear out, had a water heater leak about a year ago, so there's a
lot of stuff that needs to be gone through.

I'm actually looking to do an air purification system - my VP swears by
the one she's got, a friend with cat allergies never has a problem when
going by to visit now because of what they've got - and it's not the carp
one ("Ionic Breeze" or whatever it is - the one from Sharper Image that
consumer reports says is useless).

> btw, you didnt mention food allergies result from that test.

No food allergies were listed. :-) Though I don't know that they were
tested for, not on the sheet.

> .....love me some nasonex.

That stuff seemed to work well.

Sewermonger
14-Jul-2007, 08:28 AM
I have two of them from Sharper Image. They work


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Jim Henderson
14-Jul-2007, 08:43 PM
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 07:28:10 +0000, Sewermonger wrote:

> I have two of them from Sharper Image. They work

Odd, everything I've read say that they're ineffective....

Jim

Keith V. Klenke
14-Jul-2007, 10:18 PM
I've got one & it works pretty well. Tossed it into my office at work & it
was pretty nasty when it came time to clean it.

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"Jim Henderson" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 07:28:10 +0000, Sewermonger wrote:
>
>> I have two of them from Sharper Image. They work
>
> Odd, everything I've read say that they're ineffective....
>
> Jim

Jim Henderson
15-Jul-2007, 12:23 AM
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:18:39 +0000, Keith V. Klenke wrote:

> I've got one & it works pretty well. Tossed it into my office at work &
> it was pretty nasty when it came time to clean it.

Interesting, have to take another look. Consumer Reports did a test with
a number of different ones, and said that one came in at the very bottom
of their list.

Jim

Ben A L Jemmett
15-Jul-2007, 12:45 AM
In <TH9mi.1338$QE3.955@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com>, Jim Henderson
wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 07:28:10 +0000, Sewermonger wrote:
>
> > I have two of them from Sharper Image. They work
>
> Odd, everything I've read say that they're ineffective....

They aren't hugely good at filtration, as my mother discovered when she
bought one -- the dust that escaped out and got blown around played
merry heck with her allergies. For what it's worth, the company
themselves admitted this when she rang to ask if there was something
wrong with it...

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MichaelC
15-Jul-2007, 11:12 PM
Jim
> Ah, well, that wasn't so bad. But they didn't do the blood test which is
> what I had been led to understand they were going to do - they did the
> "let's scratch your back with different stuff and see what the results
> are".

Ahhh, I had the blood test :)

> I have four allergies, graded on a scale of 0-4:
>
> * Maple Trees (Score: 2)
> * Mesquite Trees (Score: 2)
> * Cats (Score: 3)
> * Dust Mites - Fannae (Score: 4)
> * Dust Mites - Pteronysoniss (Score: 4p)

Maple trees? Wow.
Cats isn't a good thing is it?!

> I also am borderline asthmatic - not so much that I need to be treated,
> but it's something the doctor wants to watch. I did a test on a
> spirometer (basically, you inhale and exhale into a tube as fast as you
> can and they measure how much air moves and how fast), both before and
> after a double-dose of albuterol. The albuterol helped, apparently.

Ah matey, join the club! How much was the measurement on your "peak
flow" (that's what they call it)?
Mine sticks at around 650 <g>

Michael
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have been" (John Greenleaf Whittier)

Jim Henderson
15-Jul-2007, 11:20 PM
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:12:22 +0000, MichaelC wrote:

> Jim
>> Ah, well, that wasn't so bad. But they didn't do the blood test which
>> is what I had been led to understand they were going to do - they did
>> the "let's scratch your back with different stuff and see what the
>> results are".
>
> Ahhh, I had the blood test :)

I was ready for that, not for the scratch test. But the scratch test is
more accurate.

>> I have four allergies, graded on a scale of 0-4:
>>
>> * Maple Trees (Score: 2)
>> * Mesquite Trees (Score: 2)
>> * Cats (Score: 3)
>> * Dust Mites - Fannae (Score: 4)
>> * Dust Mites - Pteronysoniss (Score: 4p)
>
> Maple trees? Wow.

Yeah, considering I used to climb the one in the back yard at my parents'
house when I was growing up....That was a surprise.

> Cats isn't a good thing is it?!

Um, no, not so much of a good thing, that one.

>> I also am borderline asthmatic - not so much that I need to be treated,
>> but it's something the doctor wants to watch. I did a test on a
>> spirometer (basically, you inhale and exhale into a tube as fast as you
>> can and they measure how much air moves and how fast), both before and
>> after a double-dose of albuterol. The albuterol helped, apparently.
>
> Ah matey, join the club! How much was the measurement on your "peak
> flow" (that's what they call it)?
> Mine sticks at around 650 <g>

They didn't give me the values, just the percentages; I was at 75% of
predicted on the large airways, and 73% of predicted on the small. The
doctor said that 75% is considered about normal, 73% is just below (hence
the slightly). After the albuterol, it was 80-something and 90-something.

I'm going to try the inhaler before we go to the gym today and see if
there's any difference.

Jim

MichaelC
15-Jul-2007, 11:41 PM
Jim
> I was ready for that, not for the scratch test. But the scratch test is
> more accurate.

Is it? Oh right - maybe I should go have that one day. Though I think my
cat/dog allergies have really subsided since last time I was tested.
More pressing for me is the results of my Lupus anticoagulant test that
I have to discuss with my GP tomorrow :(

> Yeah, considering I used to climb the one in the back yard at my parents'
> house when I was growing up....That was a surprise.

Mate, I had a cat for 15 years, and apparently cats are rated 5 on my
allergy list! Doesn't make any sense...

> Um, no, not so much of a good thing, that one.

Not at all :(

> They didn't give me the values, just the percentages; I was at 75% of
> predicted on the large airways, and 73% of predicted on the small. The
> doctor said that 75% is considered about normal, 73% is just below (hence
> the slightly). After the albuterol, it was 80-something and 90-something.
>
> I'm going to try the inhaler before we go to the gym today and see if
> there's any difference.

Strange - they usually give you the value read off the scale at the top
- I've not been given a %age, just that my lungs function fairly normally!

Oh, BTW the drug I take for dog/cat allergies is Zirtek (could be your
Allegra) - it's a proper good one :)

Michael
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have been" (John Greenleaf Whittier)

Jim Henderson
16-Jul-2007, 03:52 AM
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:41:57 +0000, MichaelC wrote:

> Jim
>> I was ready for that, not for the scratch test. But the scratch test
>> is more accurate.
>
> Is it? Oh right - maybe I should go have that one day. Though I think my
> cat/dog allergies have really subsided since last time I was tested.

I asked my doc about that, and that's what he told me. Been at it a long
time...

> More pressing for me is the results of my Lupus anticoagulant test that
> I have to discuss with my GP tomorrow :(

Ugh....Good luck with that.

>> Yeah, considering I used to climb the one in the back yard at my
>> parents' house when I was growing up....That was a surprise.
>
> Mate, I had a cat for 15 years, and apparently cats are rated 5 on my
> allergy list! Doesn't make any sense...

I've had cats all my life, except for about a year after I moved to
Utah. Should've been a hint when I cleared up during that time, and then
they hit again when I got two cats...

>> Um, no, not so much of a good thing, that one.
>
> Not at all :(

But the doctor recognised it was non-negotiable, either, one reason I
like him.

>> They didn't give me the values, just the percentages; I was at 75% of
>> predicted on the large airways, and 73% of predicted on the small. The
>> doctor said that 75% is considered about normal, 73% is just below
>> (hence the slightly). After the albuterol, it was 80-something and
>> 90-something.
>>
>> I'm going to try the inhaler before we go to the gym today and see if
>> there's any difference.
>
> Strange - they usually give you the value read off the scale at the top
> - I've not been given a %age, just that my lungs function fairly
> normally!

Yeah, apparently not that way here. I asked the doc about treatments
here vs. in the UK (since a 5 year plan might well have me at the end of
my treatment in the UK if things go to plan), and he said the treatments
are different there. Something else I have to look into now...

Didn't feel as winded after the gym today, so apparently the meds helped
with that as well. The soreness was entirely in my legs, which makes
sense since I was on the bike again.

> Oh, BTW the drug I take for dog/cat allergies is Zirtek (could be your
> Allegra) - it's a proper good one :)

I've tried Zyrtec, gave me nosebleeds. Allegra is better in that regard
(I've got the generic equivalent).

Jim

MichaelC
16-Jul-2007, 01:15 PM
Jim
> I asked my doc about that, and that's what he told me. Been at it a long
> time...

<g>

> Ugh....Good luck with that.

Ta - turns out the haematology lab have done me over on the results yet
again - have had 4 separate bloods taken, and they've only processed one
- grrrrrrrrr, they really wind me up.

> I've had cats all my life, except for about a year after I moved to
> Utah. Should've been a hint when I cleared up during that time, and then
> they hit again when I got two cats...

Aye, I didn't notice until long after my cat had retired to the coast :)

> But the doctor recognised it was non-negotiable, either, one reason I
> like him.

Ah, you got a human doctor? That's nice <g>

> Yeah, apparently not that way here. I asked the doc about treatments
> here vs. in the UK (since a 5 year plan might well have me at the end of
> my treatment in the UK if things go to plan), and he said the treatments
> are different there. Something else I have to look into now...

Hmmm, not sure how different they are really - we can get very much the
same drugs, they're just called different things :D Certainly salbutamol
& seretide are readily available (they're what I use)

> Didn't feel as winded after the gym today, so apparently the meds helped
> with that as well. The soreness was entirely in my legs, which makes
> sense since I was on the bike again.

Cool - really must get back to the gym *sigh*

> I've tried Zyrtec, gave me nosebleeds. Allegra is better in that regard
> (I've got the generic equivalent).

Oh yes, you guys just spell it differently don't you?
Nosebleeds though? Ouch!

Michael
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have been" (John Greenleaf Whittier)

Mary Matthews
16-Jul-2007, 03:41 PM
You're lucky...last time I was tested I had a list of over 98 specific
items.

Word of caution on the inhaler...ease up on caffeine if you're supposed to
use it every day. It can wind you up quite quickly. I have one for
emergencies only...I need it in winter when the car exhaust is sitting near
the ground.

Good luck with the new chemical cocktail and let us know how it works. :)

M.

Mary Matthews
16-Jul-2007, 03:43 PM
My truck was on the "don't buy" list of Consumer Reports for used vehicles
and it's now got 305,000 miles on it and still running. :)

Jim Henderson
16-Jul-2007, 03:48 PM
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:15:42 +0000, MichaelC wrote:

>> Ugh....Good luck with that.
>
> Ta - turns out the haematology lab have done me over on the results yet
> again - have had 4 separate bloods taken, and they've only processed one
> - grrrrrrrrr, they really wind me up.

Egads. That's one of the reasons I don't like going to the doctor....

> Aye, I didn't notice until long after my cat had retired to the coast :)

"Retired"? I don't know if I want to know more....

> Ah, you got a human doctor? That's nice <g>

Yeah, a rarity, to be sure. :-)

> Hmmm, not sure how different they are really - we can get very much the
> same drugs, they're just called different things :D Certainly salbutamol
> & seretide are readily available (they're what I use)

I'd have to look more deeply, hard to do without the bottle here. :-)

> Cool - really must get back to the gym *sigh*

We took a couple of months off while we were working on the house; the
house still isn't done, but it is slowly coming along.

>> I've tried Zyrtec, gave me nosebleeds. Allegra is better in that
>> regard (I've got the generic equivalent).
>
> Oh yes, you guys just spell it differently don't you? Nosebleeds though?
> Ouch!

I only have known Zyrtec spelled like that "Zirtec" throws a spelling
error in my spellchecker here, in fact. But yeah, nosebleeds are
something that runs in the family - dad had problems with them as well.

Jim

Jim Henderson
16-Jul-2007, 04:27 PM
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:41:34 +0000, Mary Matthews wrote:

> You're lucky...last time I was tested I had a list of over 98 specific
> items.

Yow!

> Word of caution on the inhaler...ease up on caffeine if you're supposed
> to use it every day. It can wind you up quite quickly. I have one for
> emergencies only...I need it in winter when the car exhaust is sitting
> near the ground.

Yeah, I'm not on an everyday use, just an "as needed" use. I've actually
cut most caffeine out of my diet - since I started working out, more
water and less soda.

I probably will only end up needing it before working out on our "red air
quality" days.


> Good luck with the new chemical cocktail and let us know how it works.
> :)

Not enjoying the Advair - not so much because it's ineffective, but I now
seem to have developed a cough. I'm taking notes for my followup
appointment in 3 weeks.

Jim

MichaelC
19-Jul-2007, 09:42 PM
Jim
> Egads. That's one of the reasons I don't like going to the doctor....

It's not actually the doc's fault - it's the haematology lab being a
PITA again - grrrrr...

> "Retired"? I don't know if I want to know more....

LOL - nowt sinister! I wasn't allowed to keep pets in the first flat I
moved to when I moved down South - so I sent Rosie off to friends of the
family for her retirement. She had a happy 4 or 5 years there before she
died.

> Yeah, a rarity, to be sure. :-)

<g>

> I'd have to look more deeply, hard to do without the bottle here. :-)

Uhuh :)

> We took a couple of months off while we were working on the house; the
> house still isn't done, but it is slowly coming along.

I had a week off for my birthday (4 months ago) and haven't been back since!

> I only have known Zyrtec spelled like that "Zirtec" throws a spelling
> error in my spellchecker here, in fact. But yeah, nosebleeds are
> something that runs in the family - dad had problems with them as well.

It's definitely Zirtek here :)
Nosebleeds run in the family? Nice pun ;)

Michael
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have been" (John Greenleaf Whittier)

Jim Henderson
19-Jul-2007, 09:54 PM
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:42:45 +0000, MichaelC wrote:

> Jim
>> Egads. That's one of the reasons I don't like going to the doctor....
>
> It's not actually the doc's fault - it's the haematology lab being a
> PITA again - grrrrr...

Well, sure, but for me it's the fact that I went in that instigated the
entire series of events....

>> "Retired"? I don't know if I want to know more....
>
> LOL - nowt sinister! I wasn't allowed to keep pets in the first flat I
> moved to when I moved down South - so I sent Rosie off to friends of the
> family for her retirement. She had a happy 4 or 5 years there before she
> died.

Oh, well, that sounds better. :-)

>> I'd have to look more deeply, hard to do without the bottle here. :-)
>
> Uhuh :)

I figured you'd understand. :-)

>> We took a couple of months off while we were working on the house; the
>> house still isn't done, but it is slowly coming along.
>
> I had a week off for my birthday (4 months ago) and haven't been back
> since!

Oh, for shame! I've got another session with the trainer tonight. But
I've not been feeling well today - the heat, I think...

>> I only have known Zyrtec spelled like that "Zirtec" throws a spelling
>> error in my spellchecker here, in fact. But yeah, nosebleeds are
>> something that runs in the family - dad had problems with them as well.
>
> It's definitely Zirtek here :)
> Nosebleeds run in the family? Nice pun ;)

I knew you'd appreciate it. :-)

Jim

MichaelC
20-Jul-2007, 08:19 AM
Jim
> Well, sure, but for me it's the fact that I went in that instigated the
> entire series of events....

Yeah, well that's what I did too - in January <g>

> Oh, well, that sounds better. :-)

Uhuh :)

> I figured you'd understand. :-)

But of course <g>

> Oh, for shame! I've got another session with the trainer tonight. But
> I've not been feeling well today - the heat, I think...

Uhuh, the heat, the heat, sounds likely to me ;)
Me? I'm just heading to Blackpool for a weekend on the beer <g>

> I knew you'd appreciate it. :-)

As always <g>

Michael
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have been" (John Greenleaf Whittier)

Jim Henderson
20-Jul-2007, 05:25 PM
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:19:38 +0000, MichaelC wrote:

> Jim
>> Well, sure, but for me it's the fact that I went in that instigated the
>> entire series of events....
>
> Yeah, well that's what I did too - in January <g>

Took you a while to get to this point.... :-)

>> Oh, for shame! I've got another session with the trainer tonight. But
>> I've not been feeling well today - the heat, I think...
>
> Uhuh, the heat, the heat, sounds likely to me ;) Me? I'm just heading to
> Blackpool for a weekend on the beer <g>

<homer>Mmmm, beer....</homer>

It's been near or over 100F every day for the last week. The upcoming
week has us in the mid to upper 90's.

I wonder whatever happened to spring this year.....?

Jim

MichaelC
24-Jul-2007, 01:48 AM
Jim
> Took you a while to get to this point.... :-)

Yeah, about 6 months *sigh*

> <homer>Mmmm, beer....</homer>

*drool*

> It's been near or over 100F every day for the last week. The upcoming
> week has us in the mid to upper 90's.
>
> I wonder whatever happened to spring this year.....?

LOL - and over this side of the pond, we're wondering just what happened
to summer (apart from a nice couple of weeks in April)!

Michael
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have been" (John Greenleaf Whittier)