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Mark (mgh)
17-Jul-2007, 04:30 PM
I encourage everyone to read this column in its entirety. Especially
the reader feedback comments.

In my reading of the column & the feedback, I've found an obvious trend.
People are keeping their existing OS as opposed to migrating to Vista.
Also, there is a slow but steady move away from M$ to OS X & Linux. I
wasn't sure how much of a migration to Vista existed but the reader
feedback make it very clear. Little to none.

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http://weblog.infoworld.com/robertxcringely/archives/2007/07/up_for_adoption.html

ROBERT X. CRINGELY July 11, 2007

Up for adoption: Windows Vista
Filed under: Microsoft Madness

Well, it's been six months since the second biggest tech debut of the
year, Windows Vista. (OK, five months and 12 days, for those of you who
are counting). How's has it gone?

The good news: Security companies like Zone Alarm have, finally, shipped
Vista compatible versions of their software. Hardware drivers are
gradually rolling out.

Yet Microsoft still felt compelled to issue talking points that OEMs
could use to convince customers not to wait for SP1 before taking the
Vista plunge. And corporate customers have been clamoring for easier
ways to downgrade from Vista to XP so loudly that Microsoft actually
heard them and simplified the process (PDF file).
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A noteable reader comment ...
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As an IT consultant, vehement dissatisfaction with Microsoft products
hasn't been new for over ten years.

What is new is this, firms that would never consider anything but and
Windows environment are now actively testing Linux alternatives to both
MS server and desktop environments.

IT professionals I know are now running Mac Desktop environments to
manage Windows shops and aren't looking back.

I'm here for the long hall so I'll be supporting whatever gets thrown my
way however, I'm starting to support a lot more Mac and Linux
environments than I used to.
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Uwe Buckesfeld
17-Jul-2007, 06:25 PM
Isn't it the same with every Windows version? MS ships a new version and
people don't buy it. Vista may be even worse, due to increased hardware
requirements.

So what? Almost every machine you can buy comes with Vista. In about 3 years
time, Vista will have conquered the vast majority of the market. Mission
accomplished.
<shrug>

U

Jay Calderwood
17-Jul-2007, 07:32 PM
Uwe Buckesfeld wrote:
> Isn't it the same with every Windows version? MS ships a new version and
> people don't buy it. Vista may be even worse, due to increased hardware
> requirements.
>
> So what? Almost every machine you can buy comes with Vista. In about 3 years
> time, Vista will have conquered the vast majority of the market. Mission
> accomplished.
> <shrug>
>
> U

Vista is a bloated piece of cow manure. I'm on to Ubuntu now... I like
it... Now I am working on a Ubuntu based Security appliance and a Ubuntu
based pbx for the cheap :) Takers???

--
Jay Calderwood
http://jaycalderwood.blogspot.com

Quote: "I have worked HARD for everything I have. A beautiful family
which includes a beautiful Soon-to-be wife,
a bunch of beautiful healthy kids, 2 annoying pooches, and an occasional
Pooh Bear (silly ol' bear he is).
Like I said I worked hard for what I have and I'm not going to lose this
because this is what I always have wanted.
I need to remove those cancerous people from my life to keep what I
have, and I will. I'm tired of all
the backstabbing and deceit. This is my world, I created it, now it is
time to undo what I let happen. I will not turn back."

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unsigned@ @digerati.us
17-Jul-2007, 10:38 PM
+1, and I think XP makes for an ok desktop. I'm not a linux on the
desktop fan and while apple is great, I don't see it as a 'desktop'
replacement. Apple's laptops are second to none (I've had a few
different models over the last 4 years) and I use my daily, yet I don't
support any but my own. In any case, Vista isn't on our radar.

Mark (mgh) wrote:
> I encourage everyone to read this column in its entirety. Especially
> the reader feedback comments.
>
> In my reading of the column & the feedback, I've found an obvious trend.
> People are keeping their existing OS as opposed to migrating to Vista.
> Also, there is a slow but steady move away from M$ to OS X & Linux. I
> wasn't sure how much of a migration to Vista existed but the reader
> feedback make it very clear. Little to none.
>
> --------------------
> http://weblog.infoworld.com/robertxcringely/archives/2007/07/up_for_adoption.html
>
> ROBERT X. CRINGELY July 11, 2007
>
> Up for adoption: Windows Vista
> Filed under: Microsoft Madness
>
> Well, it's been six months since the second biggest tech debut of the
> year, Windows Vista. (OK, five months and 12 days, for those of you who
> are counting). How's has it gone?
>
> The good news: Security companies like Zone Alarm have, finally, shipped
> Vista compatible versions of their software. Hardware drivers are
> gradually rolling out.
>
> Yet Microsoft still felt compelled to issue talking points that OEMs
> could use to convince customers not to wait for SP1 before taking the
> Vista plunge. And corporate customers have been clamoring for easier
> ways to downgrade from Vista to XP so loudly that Microsoft actually
> heard them and simplified the process (PDF file).
> ----------------------------
>
> A noteable reader comment ...
> ----------------------------
> As an IT consultant, vehement dissatisfaction with Microsoft products
> hasn't been new for over ten years.
>
> What is new is this, firms that would never consider anything but and
> Windows environment are now actively testing Linux alternatives to both
> MS server and desktop environments.
>
> IT professionals I know are now running Mac Desktop environments to
> manage Windows shops and aren't looking back.
>
> I'm here for the long hall so I'll be supporting whatever gets thrown my
> way however, I'm starting to support a lot more Mac and Linux
> environments than I used to.
> ----------------------------
>

Mark (mgh)
18-Jul-2007, 12:17 AM
There is a significant difference in the market place with this Windows
migration to Vista vs. the previous versions of Windows. This time,
there is real competition from Linux & OS X. And people are turning to
these alternatives like never before.

M$ domination is not assured any longer.

JT
19-Jul-2007, 01:12 AM
My 2 cents... I support ~ 500 PC's with Windows XP.
They are on average solid.... Users (much as they try)
do not corrupt their workstations on a daily basis.

Granted it took Service Pack 2 to solidify the OS.
But I remember Windows 9x and the lost sleep correcting what havoc users
had wrought....

I think XP is mature enough to be stable yet we are forced
to swallow the next incarnation of Windows for the mere fact of
Microsoft's need to grow...

The corporate need to "re-invent the wheel" every few years
ignores the fact that computers are tools and if functional
need not receive a facelift (read AERO) every few years
just because the hardware supports it...

Just my 2 cents.....


"Mark (mgh)" <markgharveyNO@SPAMyahooPLEASE.com> wrote in message
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>I encourage everyone to read this column in its entirety. Especially
> the reader feedback comments.
>
> In my reading of the column & the feedback, I've found an obvious trend.
> People are keeping their existing OS as opposed to migrating to Vista.
> Also, there is a slow but steady move away from M$ to OS X & Linux. I
> wasn't sure how much of a migration to Vista existed but the reader
> feedback make it very clear. Little to none.
>
> --------------------
> http://weblog.infoworld.com/robertxcringely/archives/2007/07/up_for_adoption.html
>
> ROBERT X. CRINGELY July 11, 2007
>
> Up for adoption: Windows Vista
> Filed under: Microsoft Madness
>
> Well, it's been six months since the second biggest tech debut of the
> year, Windows Vista. (OK, five months and 12 days, for those of you who
> are counting). How's has it gone?
>
> The good news: Security companies like Zone Alarm have, finally, shipped
> Vista compatible versions of their software. Hardware drivers are
> gradually rolling out.
>
> Yet Microsoft still felt compelled to issue talking points that OEMs
> could use to convince customers not to wait for SP1 before taking the
> Vista plunge. And corporate customers have been clamoring for easier
> ways to downgrade from Vista to XP so loudly that Microsoft actually
> heard them and simplified the process (PDF file).
> ----------------------------
>
> A noteable reader comment ...
> ----------------------------
> As an IT consultant, vehement dissatisfaction with Microsoft products
> hasn't been new for over ten years.
>
> What is new is this, firms that would never consider anything but and
> Windows environment are now actively testing Linux alternatives to both
> MS server and desktop environments.
>
> IT professionals I know are now running Mac Desktop environments to
> manage Windows shops and aren't looking back.
>
> I'm here for the long hall so I'll be supporting whatever gets thrown my
> way however, I'm starting to support a lot more Mac and Linux
> environments than I used to.
> ----------------------------
>