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  1. #1
    Tom Breeden NNTP User

    Microsoft hotfixes needed for every iPrint client workstation

    I just noticed TID 3786843 which recommends hotfixes for Windows SP
    Workstation:

    Novell recommends that every Windows 2000 SP4 and XP SP2
    workstation running the iPrint client have two Microsoft
    hotfixes applied....
    1) Install Microsoft hotfix KB 884897 - Missing print features
    2) Install the Microsoft hotfix KB 893225 - Slow print performance

    I have noticed that "n-up" printing does not seem to work with iPrint.

    Has anyone done this with good/bad results? It appears that you have to
    beg Microsoft support for access to these, as I can find the discussion
    of them on the Microsoft web pages, but not the download itself.

    Tom


  2. #2
    Joseph Marton NNTP User

    Re: Microsoft hotfixes needed for every iPrint client workstation

    On Tue, 22 May 2007 14:29:46 +0000, Tom Breeden wrote:

    > Has anyone done this with good/bad results? It appears that you have to
    > beg Microsoft support for access to these, as I can find the discussion of
    > them on the Microsoft web pages, but not the download itself.


    You don't have to beg them for the hotfixes. You simply have to call
    them, give the KB number and say you are having the problem, and then
    they'll e-mail the hotfixes to you. The patches work wonders and really
    should be considered prereqs for using iPrint.

    If it were up to me, I'd change the iPrint client install to not even
    install if those patches aren't on the system.

    --
    Joe Marton
    Novell Support Forum SysOp
    Novell does not officially monitor these forums!


  3. #3
    Patrick Farrell NNTP User

    Re: Microsoft hotfixes needed for every iPrint client workstation

    Joseph Marton wrote:
    > On Tue, 22 May 2007 14:29:46 +0000, Tom Breeden wrote:
    >
    >> Has anyone done this with good/bad results? It appears that you have to
    >> beg Microsoft support for access to these, as I can find the discussion of
    >> them on the Microsoft web pages, but not the download itself.

    >
    > You don't have to beg them for the hotfixes. You simply have to call
    > them, give the KB number and say you are having the problem, and then
    > they'll e-mail the hotfixes to you. The patches work wonders and really
    > should be considered prereqs for using iPrint.
    >
    > If it were up to me, I'd change the iPrint client install to not even
    > install if those patches aren't on the system.
    >


    I would be nice if Novell could get them and make them available, but I
    doubt MS would allow that.

    Anyone have them handy for XP and 2k?

  4. #4
    Patrick Farrell NNTP User

    Re: Microsoft hotfixes needed for every iPrint client workstation

    Joseph Marton wrote:
    > If it were up to me, I'd change the iPrint client install to not even
    > install if those patches aren't on the system.
    >


    Unfortunately in practice that would be a bad idea not to make a product
    install based on the criteria of a non public patch being installed. If
    it was on windows update sure. (Why isn't it on windows update anyway?
    That and the darned WPA2 update)


  5. #5
    Joseph Marton NNTP User

    Re: Microsoft hotfixes needed for every iPrint client workstation

    On Tue, 22 May 2007 15:04:02 +0000, Patrick Farrell wrote:

    > Unfortunately in practice that would be a bad idea not to make a product
    > install based on the criteria of a non public patch being installed.


    Well, the only thing is sooooooo many features of iPrint don't work
    without those patches. And it's not just iPrint, it's any sort of network
    printer has issues. Plus the patches are available for free from M$, you
    just have to call them to obtain them.

    > If
    > it was on windows update sure. (Why isn't it on windows update anyway?


    No idea why it's not, but it would be nice if they were. I guess that
    Windows Update is only for security fixes, so everyone will have to wait
    for XP SP3 to get these fixes without calling M$.

    --
    Joe Marton
    Novell Support Forum SysOp
    Novell does not officially monitor these forums!


  6. #6
    Patrick Farrell NNTP User

    Re: Microsoft hotfixes needed for every iPrint client workstation

    Joseph Marton wrote:
    > On Tue, 22 May 2007 15:04:02 +0000, Patrick Farrell wrote:
    >
    >> Unfortunately in practice that would be a bad idea not to make a product
    >> install based on the criteria of a non public patch being installed.

    >
    > Well, the only thing is sooooooo many features of iPrint don't work
    > without those patches. And it's not just iPrint, it's any sort of network
    > printer has issues. Plus the patches are available for free from M$, you
    > just have to call them to obtain them.
    >
    >> If
    >> it was on windows update sure. (Why isn't it on windows update anyway?

    >
    > No idea why it's not, but it would be nice if they were. I guess that
    > Windows Update is only for security fixes, so everyone will have to wait
    > for XP SP3 to get these fixes without calling M$.
    >


    No windows update is for all sorts of things that go under non critical
    such as root cert updates, media player, cardspace updates etc etc. I
    wonder if they will ever send out an SP3

  7. #7
    Rolf Lidvall NNTP User

    Re: Microsoft hotfixes needed for every iPrint client workstation

    > I
    > wonder if they will ever send out an SP3


    At the very bottom of MS KB documents look for the word "Keyword".
    KB884897 has the word "kbwinxpsp3fix" which means that this hot fix
    is scheduled to be included in XP SP3.

    Regards
    Rolf Lidvall
    Swedish Radio (Ltd)



  8. #8
    Barry Schnur NNTP User

    Re: Microsoft hotfixes needed for every iPrint client workstation

    Patrick, my *guess* is that an SP3 for XP will be available sometime
    after Microsoft 2007 server and Vista SP1 have been out for a while.


    --
    Barry Schnur
    Novell Support Connection Volunteer Sysop

  9. #9
    Patrick Farrell NNTP User

    Re: Microsoft hotfixes needed for every iPrint client workstation

    Joseph Marton wrote:
    > On Tue, 22 May 2007 15:04:02 +0000, Patrick Farrell wrote:
    >
    >> Unfortunately in practice that would be a bad idea not to make a product
    >> install based on the criteria of a non public patch being installed.

    >
    > Well, the only thing is sooooooo many features of iPrint don't work
    > without those patches. And it's not just iPrint, it's any sort of network
    > printer has issues. Plus the patches are available for free from M$, you
    > just have to call them to obtain them.
    >
    >> If
    >> it was on windows update sure. (Why isn't it on windows update anyway?

    >
    > No idea why it's not, but it would be nice if they were. I guess that
    > Windows Update is only for security fixes, so everyone will have to wait
    > for XP SP3 to get these fixes without calling M$.
    >


    For Windows 2000 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/900345/en-us

    84497 was rolled into that update

  10. #10
    Tom Breeden NNTP User

    Re: Microsoft hotfixes needed for every iPrint client workstation

    >>> On 5/22/2007 at 10:47 AM, Joseph Marton<jmartonNO@SPAMhsemuni.com>
    wrote:
    > On Tue, 22 May 2007 14:29:46 +0000, Tom Breeden wrote:
    >
    >> Has anyone done this with good/bad results? It appears that you have to
    >> beg Microsoft support for access to these, as I can find the discussion

    > of
    >> them on the Microsoft web pages, but not the download itself.

    >
    > You don't have to beg them for the hotfixes. You simply have to call
    > them, give the KB number and say you are having the problem, and then
    > they'll e-mail the hotfixes to you. The patches work wonders and really
    > should be considered prereqs for using iPrint.
    >
    > If it were up to me, I'd change the iPrint client install to not even
    > install if those patches aren't on the system.



    Thanks. I will call with a firm voice!

    Tom


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