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    How to Move User Accounts

    I have my old novell 6.5 server using TFS on the volumes and we have out grown the disk space on all the drives. I need to move the users from the old server to the new server which is still Novell 6.5 but the new volumes are going to NSS any suggestions where to start. Its been years since I did a user migration I went from 5.1 to 6.5. So I am very nervous about the move.

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    Re: How to Move User Accounts

    Does your new server already exist or is it a server that still needs to
    be installed? If the new server is a server that needs to be installed and
    that will completely replace the old one, then the best option is to use
    the Migration Wizard. Best practices for using the Migration Wizard can be
    found here:

    http://wiki.novell.com/index.php/Migration_Wizard

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    Re: How to Move User Accounts

    The new server is up and is sitting in the tree with the old server. But it is not in use other than when I log into it. So the Migration Wizard would still be the way to go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel_Cox View Post
    Does your new server already exist or is it a server that still needs to
    be installed? If the new server is a server that needs to be installed and
    that will completely replace the old one, then the best option is to use
    the Migration Wizard. Best practices for using the Migration Wizard can be
    found here:

    Migration Wizard - CoolSolutionsWiki

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    Re: How to Move User Accounts

    ad1082 wrote:

    >So the Migration Wizard
    >would still be the way to go?


    Only if you are prepared to wipe out your new server and reinstall it for
    use in the migration. With the migration wizard, the destination server
    will take the identity of the source server and so you have a one to one
    replacement where you don't need to update scripts or home directories.

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    Re: How to Move User Accounts

    In using the migration wizard you state that it will completly take over the identity of the source server meaning that it will use the same IP and DNS name? After the migration would I be able to change the destination servers IP and DNS? And would the old server remain in tact so that until the destination server is stable my users could still log into the original server an work? Is there another method to consider? Because what I would like to do is move the users over and then use the old server, the destinaton server and a 3rd server for clusteringfurther down the line.
    Thank you for your patience I know this is a lot to ask.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel_Cox View Post
    ad1082 wrote:

    >So the Migration Wizard
    >would still be the way to go?


    Only if you are prepared to wipe out your new server and reinstall it for
    use in the migration. With the migration wizard, the destination server
    will take the identity of the source server and so you have a one to one
    replacement where you don't need to update scripts or home directories.

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    Re: How to Move User Accounts

    A couple of things:

    - the migration wizard approach is what you would want to do is if you
    don't want to change anything in your architecture (except maybe the OS
    version and the volume type). In that case, after the migration, the old
    server is definitely disabled (and cannot be reenabled unless nuking the
    new server or giving the old server a different NDS identity) and the new
    server has taken the exact identity of the old one. This is the quickest
    and the most transparent way to move to a different server. However this
    is not the way to proceed if you want to do some serious remodeling of
    your structure or if you want to move to a cluster.

    Now if you want to move to a cluster, this is an important aspect of the
    scenario that completely changes the way you should proceed.
    In this case, you should proceed as follows:

    - start by installing the cluster into your tree. In your case, that means
    you create a cluster from your new server plus the third server you are
    talking about. Make sure your cluster resources exsit before you start
    migrating to the cluster

    - migrate all data and services to the cluster and change your scripts and
    everything else that needs to be changed to point to the cluster
    resources. This can be done with the Consolidation tool (the other
    functionality of the migration and consolidation toolkit) for file and
    printer migration. Any potential other services need to be migrated
    manually and your scripts also need to be changed manually

    - remove your old server from the tree

    - reinstall your old server as a node of the cluster

    It is very important that you install the cluster before migrating to it
    and that you don't first migrate your data to a server before turning it
    into a cluster. Turnign an existing server into a cluster is an operation
    that creates you a lot of needless work and makes your life needlessly
    complicated and is not transparent for the users and can create a lot of
    problems afterwords if users have references to physical nodes of the
    cluster instead of the cluster resources. Installing a cluster from
    scratch is the recommended way to handle clusters.

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    Re: How to Move User Accounts

    This is helpful thank you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel_Cox View Post
    A couple of things:

    - the migration wizard approach is what you would want to do is if you
    don't want to change anything in your architecture (except maybe the OS
    version and the volume type). In that case, after the migration, the old
    server is definitely disabled (and cannot be reenabled unless nuking the
    new server or giving the old server a different NDS identity) and the new
    server has taken the exact identity of the old one. This is the quickest
    and the most transparent way to move to a different server. However this
    is not the way to proceed if you want to do some serious remodeling of
    your structure or if you want to move to a cluster.

    Now if you want to move to a cluster, this is an important aspect of the
    scenario that completely changes the way you should proceed.
    In this case, you should proceed as follows:

    - start by installing the cluster into your tree. In your case, that means
    you create a cluster from your new server plus the third server you are
    talking about. Make sure your cluster resources exsit before you start
    migrating to the cluster

    - migrate all data and services to the cluster and change your scripts and
    everything else that needs to be changed to point to the cluster
    resources. This can be done with the Consolidation tool (the other
    functionality of the migration and consolidation toolkit) for file and
    printer migration. Any potential other services need to be migrated
    manually and your scripts also need to be changed manually

    - remove your old server from the tree

    - reinstall your old server as a node of the cluster

    It is very important that you install the cluster before migrating to it
    and that you don't first migrate your data to a server before turning it
    into a cluster. Turnign an existing server into a cluster is an operation
    that creates you a lot of needless work and makes your life needlessly
    complicated and is not transparent for the users and can create a lot of
    problems afterwords if users have references to physical nodes of the
    cluster instead of the cluster resources. Installing a cluster from
    scratch is the recommended way to handle clusters.

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    Re: How to Move User Accounts

    On Wed, 20 May 2009 17:16:01 +0000, ad1082 wrote:

    > I have my old novell 6.5 server using TFS on the volumes and we have out
    > grown the disk space on all the drives. I need to move the users from
    > the old server to the new server which is still Novell 6.5 but the new
    > volumes are going to NSS any suggestions where to start.


    Novell Storage Manager
    (http://www.novell.com/products/storagemanager/)

    Set it up. Set up your policy as to where the users' home directories
    should be located. Tell it to backfill the existing users. It will handle
    the rest for you.


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