Am in the process of upgrading OES Netware sp7 to sp8 with new hardware. ZEN comes back up but seems to be missing some components, workstation import/removal give a java exception error on load. Tried to re-install ZEN found two problems. First the server will not stay selected in the server selection screen of the installer, have found I may need to re-install earlier version??? More importantly, java will not unload cleanly to re-install. Always hangs and console prompt is no longer available, so the older version can't be re-installed. If I can solve the java issue I think I can fix the rest. Thx for help Dana