i saw in the very helpfull guide "the Caledonia Quickstart Guide to the novell mobility Pack" (thanks to danita) on page 18, we will need
the groupwise Userid and password.
now im little bit confused....
but if i configure a mobile device with that, i cant even connect to the server. also if i want to login to the user
on both i go with the novell-Edir password.

isnt that right ?